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Re: Where's Wine? (S5E7)

Postby QuantumG on Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:24 pm

Allix: yeah I think we'll be wrapping a win32 dll or 10 and then linking them to gcc compiled ia64 code.

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Re: Where's Wine? (S5E7)

Postby DanKegel on Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:38 am

Brainiversity's trouble under Wine is being discussed
at http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9637

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Re: Where's Wine? (S5E7)

Postby baafie on Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:04 am

mrben wrote:
Drom Kapult wrote:I only have a valid XP license because Sony refused to refund my Windows tax when I told them I was wiping it.


Not sure that they're legally allowed to refuse you.

There have been two lawsuits, one in France and one in Italy where the plaintiffs had declined to accept Windows' license and had turned to the manufacturer for refunds. In both cases the judges ruled that the manufacturer had to pay in excess of 100 euros for the software that was bundled with their computer.

So, are they legally allowed to refuse you? Probably not.

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Re: Where's Wine? (S5E7)

Postby R.Smith on Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:54 am

QuantumG wrote:Allix: yeah I think we'll be wrapping a win32 dll or 10 and then linking them to gcc compiled ia64 code.


Why not just compile against winelib? It'd be much less effort.
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Re: Where's Wine? (S5E7)

Postby Drom Kapult on Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:55 pm

OK. Now I'm impressed. Every bloody bug report I think about filing against wine I've found has been reported before and normally with a pertinent comment from Dan Kegel in it. Now I bitch about Brainiversity not working without having spent enough time to figure out why and that results in a wine bug report with a Dan Kegel comment. Hello Dan. Even more impressive is that I didn't link Dan's winetricks directly, so there's no chance of following referers back here from his site.

I think there are several ways that wine scores above the virtual machine (even in seamless/unity/blah mode). With wine you don't have to boot a virtual machine first to run a single app or run an rdp connection to a server, you actually have full access to your home folder (or the bits of it you want to allow access to) without resorting to a network share (and with a more native linux feel as time has progressed), you can segment each application into a fresh directory by modifying WINEPREFIX, you can install apps systemwide and allow for concurrrent usage (lndir the app into home on first run and create documents and settings directories).

Wine falls down on some peripherals. There's no usb support yet (though it was discussed again recently), my attempts with apps requiring asynchronous i/o have failed (though this might now be out of date).

baafie,

Thanks for the info. I guess I've now fucked up by accepting the XP license (kind of). Strange thing is I don't remember there being a license to accept on my Vaio when I bought it. I wonder if they ship them pre-agreed or whether it's my memory at fault. I'm thinking the latter.

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Re: Where's Wine? (S5E7)

Postby QuantumG on Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:01 pm

R.Smith wrote:Why not just compile against winelib? It'd be much less effort.


What? The win32 dlls? They're binaries. We don't have the source to them.. but our app uses them.. so we need them on Linux.

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Re: Where's Wine? (S5E7)

Postby R.Smith on Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:36 am

QuantumG wrote:
R.Smith wrote:Why not just compile against winelib? It'd be much less effort.


What? The win32 dlls? They're binaries. We don't have the source to them.. but our app uses them.. so we need them on Linux.


No, compile your app against winelib to replace the Windows DLLs.
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Re: Where's Wine? (S5E7)

Postby QuantumG on Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:49 pm

These are third party windows dlls.

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Re: Where's Wine? (S5E7)

Postby R.Smith on Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:32 am

QuantumG wrote:These are third party windows dlls.


Well, you never specified that previously. I withdraw my suggestion.
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Re: Where's Wine? (S5E7)

Postby strycnine on Mon Dec 24, 2007 9:25 am

I use wine so I can play windows games.
And it works perfect.

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Re: Where's Wine? (S5E7)

Postby lord_rel on Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:15 pm

it runs World of warcarft for me and some minor applications.

the latest WWN issue (336) not only mentions the lugradio interview but also mentions that some audio editing applications work using wine with an obligatory screenshot of an application.

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