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Re: I need help (Group therapy)

Postby GuerrillaRadio on Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:53 am

haakin wrote:Zachary said companies increasingly have been hiring Linux know-it-alls, but he advised them also to focus on identifying which open source projects have big potential and hiring talent early on before the going price gets too high (One audience member cited an example of Ajax developers being offered as much as $600 to consult, the sort of offer that is drawing them away from contributing to open source projects.)"

If the author is right, the future doesn't look very promising.

Javier


Perhaps this inspiring message will reinforce your belief in Free Software, it certainly moved me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

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Re: I need help (Group therapy)

Postby haakin on Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:19 pm

GuerrillaRadio wrote:
haakin wrote:Perhaps this inspiring message will reinforce your belief in Free Software, it certainly moved me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0


:D First time I've been Rickroll'd. I didn't know that such thing existed (the concept. I did know the song)

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Re: I need help (Group therapy)

Postby Mig21 on Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:32 am

Actually I should have started this thread, I need exactly the same kind of therapy for similar reasons :) So don't read this haakin.

For the last few months (mostly because I can't find a job as an open source programmer) I've been slowly losing faith in open source - so much so that at the worst times I've seriously considered dumping my linux desktops and switching back to full-time windows.

I'm writing from a slackware box. I stuck to it because when those worst times came I would think through the crap I'd have to deal with on windows (there's crap on any os, oncluding osx), and then I would remember that my decision to switch to linux in the first place was based mostly on technical merit (it actually is better, overall, for me).

But I'm a programmer, I hate powerpoint-like things (my talks don't need the distraction), I very rarely use a word processor, etc. I guess for you haakin this reasoning won't work. For you osx is the one that's better.

So I'd say this: your decision will be better for yourself and for all the players in the industry (both proprietary and open source) if you choose based on merit, and not on politics. For example, if you choose to do your presentations in keynote that will send a message to apple that they're doing things right, to microsoft and the open office community that they're not. Since you're already involved with open source communities you are more likely to be heard by the open office guys.

So my point is - switch to keynote and tell anyone who will listen that openoffice is crap because it can't do what you can do in keynote. That way you'll save time and promote change with open source. Promoting change in my opinion is more important than blindly swallawing whatever open source programmers through at you :)

Remember that when your peers look at you suffer while using an open source version of a program, that won't encourage them to switch :) In fact that will likely do more damage than good.

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Re: I need help (Group therapy)

Postby haakin on Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:28 am

So I'd say this: your decision will be better for yourself and for all the players in the industry (both proprietary and open source) if you choose based on merit, and not on politics. For example, if you choose to do your presentations in keynote that will send a message to apple that they're doing things right, to microsoft and the open office community that they're not.


Sadly, I did. Last Friday it was the black friday in the Apple Store and I bought iWork '08 (the package with Keynote).

It's sadder to think that the chance I never use KDE4 increases day after day. And KDE4 continues suffering delays :-(


But I'm a programmer, I hate powerpoint-like things (my talks don't need the distraction)


In a presentation the screen is not a 1-D flow, it's a 2-D (or even 3-D) surface to explain things. It you consider this, maybe you will need "the distraction".

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Re: I need help (Group therapy)

Postby Mig21 on Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:53 am

In a presentation the screen is not a 1-D flow, it's a 2-D (or even 3-D) surface to explain things. It you consider this, maybe you will need "the distraction".

Oh, for sure it can be done right. But I don't have the art/design skills to do better than I can showing a live demo of a product.

And if that or better than that isn't needed, a slideshow is a 1D flow with fancy transitions :)

I was actually thinking recently that there must be people/companies out there who design slideshows for a living and can make a very effective one, to go with a talk. Do you know anything about such businesses?

I mean now that you no longer need group therapy :)

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Re: I need help (Group therapy)

Postby haakin on Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:36 am

Mig21 wrote:Oh, for sure it can be done right. But I don't have the art/design skills to do better than I can showing a live demo of a product.


It's not only the art/design skills, it's the way you explain your topic to the audience.


Mig21 wrote:I was actually thinking recently that there must be people/companies out there who design slideshows for a living and can make a very effective one, to go with a talk. Do you know anything about such businesses?

I mean now that you no longer need group therapy :)


Yes, they exist. Or, did you honestly believe that Al Gore designed his presentations? See Duarte Design helps Al Gore "go visual".

Marginal note: If Keynote is good enough for Al Gore, it should be good enough for me ;-)

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Re: I need help (Group therapy)

Postby samgee on Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:43 pm

Mig21 wrote:So I'd say this: your decision will be better for yourself and for all the players in the industry (both proprietary and open source) if you choose based on merit, and not on politics. For example, if you choose to do your presentations in keynote that will send a message to apple that they're doing things right, to microsoft and the open office community that they're not. Since you're already involved with open source communities you are more likely to be heard by the open office guys.

But that behaviour encourages imitation rather than innovation (which can sometimes be a good thing, of course). What's worse is that if nobody uses libre software until it's ready there will be no feedback, so it will never be ready. Plus, the freedom of the software is also a feature.

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Re: I need help (Group therapy)

Postby lofty on Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:02 am

Has anyone noticed that this thread has over 2200 views but only 21 posts, which is a far higher ratio than usual? I'm wondering if loads of people looking for 'group therapy' on google found it by mistake, or whether people just liked the title for some reason.

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Re: I need help (Group therapy)

Postby Mig21 on Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:09 am

I think it's always a question that comes up in every linux user's mind, so it's interesting to many, but quite a few forum members won't voice their opinion like I have, because they are afraid of getting flamed :)

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Re: I need help (Group therapy)

Postby haakin on Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:16 am

I searched "group therapy" in Google and this thread didn't appear in the first 3 pages of results, so the answer should be in other place.

Likely Mig21 is right and many people has doubts. The lack of faith seems to be a unstopable wave... We are doommed.

Anyway, today I am totally in pessimistic mode. Everything seems to be dark and darker around me :-(
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Re: I need help (Group therapy)

Postby haakin on Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:48 pm

It's been a long time since I wrote anything in this thread.

Things continue to seem quite dark around me but, at least, part of my faith in Free Software has been restored. The main responsible is Processing. To me it's really fascinating that people is creating art using FS. My new Arduino board has helped too.Thanks to both tools I'm doing a few small but exciting (for me) things with electronics and am programming a little, something I hadn't done for a lot of years.
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